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		<title>Comment on Metadata license becomes metadata terms-of-use by Leifs BCP &#187; Gaps to Map</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leifs BCP &#187; Gaps to Map</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reasonable not to have a contractual relationship between (say) an SP and a federation. I&#8217;ve blogged about this and there has been some work in this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reasonable not to have a contractual relationship between (say) an SP and a federation. I&#8217;ve blogged about this and there has been some work in this [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stork &amp; InfoCard (and maybe U-Prove) by Robin Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who attended that meeting (I&#039;m a member of the STORK industry group) I have a couple of comments. 

First, I think it&#039;s fair to say that Microsoft applied quite a lot of pressure to the project representatives: there were at least 7 Microsoft people in the room (that I recognised... maybe others too), all of whom asked variants of the question &quot;Why aren&#039;t you using Infocard for this project?&quot;. Over 2 1/2 hours that not only became quite wearing, it also made it quite difficult for anyone else to raise substantive questions/issues.

Second, as you say, there are legitimate questions about the scale of adoption of Infocard, and whether it can genuinely claim to be an established, proven technology which represents a technological industry consensus. There is a timing issue too: as the project team pointed out, it took 2-3 years of work to even get to the point where STORK could be launched as a project. For much of that period it simply wasn&#039;t tenable to say that Infocard/Cardspace was viable for a deployment on the scale envisaged - certainly not tried-and-tested.

Finally, there&#039;s the question of whether the project team made the kind of commitment which is suggested. I am not sure I remember it the same way. The crucial word is &quot;consider&quot;. After all, you can consider a technology without ever implementing it. Maybe that&#039;s what they agreed to do. I think it would be premature to imagine that the STORK team are about to revise their architecture, at this stage of the project, to such an extent that it will accommodate Infocards in the foreseeable future. But then, the EU Framework Programmes look at the long timescale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who attended that meeting (I&#8217;m a member of the STORK industry group) I have a couple of comments. </p>
<p>First, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that Microsoft applied quite a lot of pressure to the project representatives: there were at least 7 Microsoft people in the room (that I recognised&#8230; maybe others too), all of whom asked variants of the question &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t you using Infocard for this project?&#8221;. Over 2 1/2 hours that not only became quite wearing, it also made it quite difficult for anyone else to raise substantive questions/issues.</p>
<p>Second, as you say, there are legitimate questions about the scale of adoption of Infocard, and whether it can genuinely claim to be an established, proven technology which represents a technological industry consensus. There is a timing issue too: as the project team pointed out, it took 2-3 years of work to even get to the point where STORK could be launched as a project. For much of that period it simply wasn&#8217;t tenable to say that Infocard/Cardspace was viable for a deployment on the scale envisaged &#8211; certainly not tried-and-tested.</p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s the question of whether the project team made the kind of commitment which is suggested. I am not sure I remember it the same way. The crucial word is &#8220;consider&#8221;. After all, you can consider a technology without ever implementing it. Maybe that&#8217;s what they agreed to do. I think it would be premature to imagine that the STORK team are about to revise their architecture, at this stage of the project, to such an extent that it will accommodate Infocards in the foreseeable future. But then, the EU Framework Programmes look at the long timescale.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Metadata license becomes metadata terms-of-use by Nicole Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &#039;yay&#039; enough of a comment? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8216;yay&#8217; enough of a comment? <img src='http://blogs.mnt.se/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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